Getting Sober & ‘MADE Chapter Two’ with Kevin ‘Spanky’ Long

“At that time there was a level of shame with being around Heath in general because of where I was at with it all. It was more embarrassing to skate a demo with him, or in front of him, than to sit at Starbucks and Heath tell me that I can’t be on the team anymore.”

Pro Shoes, Black Sabbath & Filming For MADE With Figgy

“I was just completely fucking thrashed. Hands, hips, knees, everything was all fucked up. But I’ve had some time off to recuperate. I’m ready to get back and start jumping. Definitely I’ve been going for it. Before this trip I was jumping like I was fucking seventeen, not that I’m some old dude but shit does take a toll.”